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#1 User is offline   Lithia Icon

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Posted 15 December 2003 - 03:51 AM

Someone who is very close to me was rapped, and since then I've noticed that people don't even say that word in normal conversation. (Except for Sublime in the song "Date Rape.")

No one knows how to act...

I was furious when I heard what happened. I tried to kill the guy who took her out on the "date," and eleven cops "kindly escorted me off the premises." These same cops are fallowing him home, watching his house, and protecting him everywhere he goes.
Why?
Innocent until proven gulity. That is fucked up.

This guy is terrified of me.
He should be.
I am going to kill him.
But what kind of moral person protects a rapist?
If I was a cop, I would look the other way while the asshole got his ass kicked and not feel bad about it at all.

I mean, this wasn't one guy. It was one guy who invited four of his freinds. He fed the girl enough GHB and Rufies that she should have died. She has 28 stiches you-do-not-want-to-know-where. She woke up in a strange apartment naked and covered in her own blood, and she was still too drugged up to even remember how to walk or drive.

The doctors stiched her up and gave her pills and shots, and then they sent her on her way. Then the police department sent cops to protect the accused. Can anybody tell me how that is okay? I almost got beat by eleven billy clubs the other day and I just don't understand why we couldn't have all beat up this boy instead.

I don't know if I even want an answer. I'm sure Roach will say something heartless about how it was probably her own fault or that cops have to protect "innocent" people... but I had to get all that anger at the injustice of it all out. Sorry.
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Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:12 AM

With my interest in law enforcement, I try to be a calming voice of reason, and I'm trying to attain the cop mindset, so here's my take on it.

You mistake the role of the police officer in society - their job is to keep the peace. You were an affront to the peace, and so you were escorted away. I can guarantee you that none of the officers wanted the job of protecting that asshole, but it was their duty to do so. You can't honestly believe that they went home proud of what they had to do that day. They need to insure that the criminal's given his day in court to answer for his crimes. Rest assured that the time he will spend in prison will be worse than anything you are capable of doing. Criminals have a sense of ironry.
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Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:24 AM

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I'm sure Roach will say something heartless about how it was probably her own fault or that cops have to protect "innocent" people... but I had to get all that anger at the injustice of it all out. Sorry.


Wow. Good call. I'm not sure that I even have to say anything at this point. That's never stopped me before.

I don't like rapists. I don't like criminals in general, but I utterly despise child molesters and rapists. I feel like these people should be shot on sight. The problem is that you can't just look at a person and know that they're a rapist or a child molester.

That's why we have a justice system. I would rather see fifty crooks go free than one innocent person go to jail for a crime they didn't commit, especially a crime as heinous as rape. That shit doesn't come out of whites, and nobody in prison likes a rapist.

I'm as saddened as my dessicated heart can be for the trauma that your friend has gone through, and I hope that she gets all the help that she needs to get through this. It is not your responsibility to play judge, jury and executioner in this matter. The police are there to protect everyone. That's why we pay them the tax dollars.
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Posted 15 December 2003 - 04:40 AM

Lith, he'll get what he deserves. If not from you, then from all of his lovely cell mates. From behind. I know that's not enough, that you want to be the one to hurt this guy, but you're better than that. Really.

It's gonna be okay. I don't know when, but I promise it will be okay.
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Posted 16 December 2003 - 01:38 AM

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I think it might be nice to find out if he actually did it before we get the burning torches and pitchforks out.


Alright, benefit of doubt went out the window with a video tape. Fuck the police, fuck the judges, and please some one let me show him what it is like. I am not gay, but I would take great pleasure it being the cause of his stitches after I was done. The cops, judges, and politicians in our great city have failed to do there duty on many occasions. I have just known too many bad cops and apathetic jurys.
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Posted 16 December 2003 - 02:07 AM

Not to say I'm speaking from personal experience, but if I were her I'd prefer if my friends stayed out of things.

I'd kill the fuck, myself of course.

I dunno, I don't like playing Judge.
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Posted 16 December 2003 - 09:06 AM

Let's just say there is irrefutable proof of his crime in various forms, and the punishment should be served equally and swiftly. The judicial system probably won't comply with either.
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Posted 26 December 2003 - 07:58 PM

clanks is right on this one.

sure, there are cops that are jerks about traffic tickets and little stuff. but 98% of them probably want to beat the shit out of this guy as well. in my experience, cops are usually good guys with a big ego. they started out wanting to save the world, and realized that they can't. so they just shoot for saving those that they think deserve it.

trust me, if they have video, this guy will get busted. justice is not as swift as we'd like, but it usually works out.
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Posted 30 December 2003 - 12:15 AM

The real problem with rape is that the victims will, and continue to pay the price over and over again. From the invasive investigations, to extremely cold courtroom proceedings, she's got a lot more pain to deal with, and I'm not just referring to her stitches. She is going to be re-ving this for a long time, even if she can't remember it now. I'd recommend you steer clear of any arrests yourself, she's going to need you then more than ever.

Not to mention, police already carry bad reps for being in the line of work they're in anyway. If we left it strictly up to the police to be judge, jury and executioners, I'd be running like hell.

I'm a Criminal Justice major at school, and one of the things they teach us first, is to do the job right. If you don't, charges can and will be dropped.

Just be the ear, shoulder, or hugs that she mayneed; it's all anyone can do. :-[
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Posted 30 December 2003 - 02:51 AM

I have to say I'm always baffled and angry whenever I hear of any sort of rape. I just don't understand why someone would EVER do something like that. Don't get me wrong, I know it happens, but it doesn't seem logical at all.

Lith, sorry to hear about your friend, see you soon...
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Posted 30 December 2003 - 06:18 AM

Okay innocent until proven guilty, but why isn't he in jail now? Micheal Jackson was charged with molesting kids and he's out on bail now, so why isn't this guy? Doesn't this give him the oppurtunity do perform such vile acts again?


System? Ha! Granted this situation is a bit different. But when I confessed to a school teacher, then later CPS (child protective services) about years of sexual abuse, nothing was done. They informed my grandparents (not mom no way to contact cuz of no phone) and that was it. No charges, they didn't ask me if I wanted to prosecute, they didn't say to my mom we suggest you get this person out of the house, or order it. Basically I just felt humiliated more than anything as they made me repeat my story with no success.

I know that doesn't make you feel good, but I just wanted it to be known how lousy they really are protecting our kids. But luckily CPS is changing it's motto from "keeping the family together" to "doing whats best for the child"

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Posted 30 December 2003 - 12:43 PM

Although I don't know (and feel free to correct me), I'd suspect that when someone's out on bail, they'd keep a close eye on them.

Besisdes, the MJ case isn't a typical thing, in that PR is vital in such a thing. This isn't Jim-Bob Redneck you're dealing with, he's got cash, lawyers out his ass, and a public. You sort of have to watch yourself more, but I'm sure they're also watching him.
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